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Swindle
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Kubrik, Kubrik, what's the big deal about Kibrik? 07/16/08 05:03 pm pst
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Ok, so right now, my two super awesome friends Chase Lisbon and Apnea are staying with me. I'm sure I'll have picture updates of adventures shortly. At least after tonight I know I will.
So Chase asks me shortly after entering my home "hey, do you have 'A Clockwork Orange'?" I go, "yeah, I think my roommate owns it, but I've never seen it."
This illicited an intense near lecture of sorts (not really, but for the sake of dramatization, shall we call it a lecture?) that involved big hand motions and crazy bug eyes and lots of emotional outbursting and spittle about how obscene it was that there were still people who hadn't seen one of Kubrik's masterpieces, and how influential his work is and how he is one of the greatest artists of all time. This "lecture" was also induced by Apnea saying another friend of hers said the movie in question "sucked." Woopsie!
I told gesturing Chase that since he hadn't read "Lolita" and had only seen it, that he wasn't allowed to discuss monumental artists of our time until he had.
So, question, debate, whichever you prefer:
What's the big deal about Kubrik, in your not-so-humble opinions? I love the man's work, but let's hear your online gesturing and spittle if you will. And what is your fave Kubrik piece?
In other news, I can fit three people into my bed. Whodathunk?
xxo
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wychlea
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07/16/08 06:01 pm
pst
Haha! I will admit I have been on both sides of this kind of argument. I have called someone out for not seeing a certain film but I soon stopped doing that because I have certainly not seen certain "classics" or so-called "important" films. I haven't seen "Schindler's List" and people keep freaking out about it. Same thing about books. And I must say, I agree with you; if someone hasn't read a classic novel, they can hardly complain about you not seeing some movie.
I do love Kubrick's work. "A Clockwork Orange" and 2001: A Space Odyssey" are my two faves, along with "Dr. Strangelove". People can get on their high horse about films but so much of it is a matter of taste. I've seen some so-called "classic great films" and not been so impressed. People can really build up your expectations and then you find yourself completely let down. "High Noon" with Gary Cooper. One of those landmark films. I thought it was slow and anti-climactic.
"Clockwork" has something to say about our species penchant for violence, and Malcolm McDowell is a joy to watch. David Prowse has a brief role, and he would later be seen as Darth Vader. I'm full of trivia like that. : ) "2001" is just so mesmerizing, but not a movie you watch on a whim. It takes some concentration.
As they say, some people's trash is another's treasure. : )
~ N
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JustinCali
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07/16/08 09:35 pm
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Janet Fitch is the shit, she wrote White Oleander, she also has another good book out called paint it black..she comes up with thee most legit metaphors ever! amazing stuff man..you should really check it out though..
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tyvo454
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07/18/08 07:53 pm
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barry lyndon is a really great kubrick movie. lesser known, but great story and cinematography. :)
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Kaia
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07/20/08 02:40 pm
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read the book first! it takes a few to get used to the dialect and learn what everything means but its worth it, i really liked it
and it has a whole extra chapter (the original, not the us release) that the movie chopped off that completely changes the entire message/meaning of the story
i havent read any of his other books though, just seen the movies
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the_setup
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07/20/08 04:45 pm
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As far as Kubrick goes, I love (in no particuar order): 2001, Full Metal Jacket, Dr. Strangelove, Clockwork and The Shining. There will be no eye-bugging and wild hand gestures from me, just a simple "You should watch it, it's really good." Clockwork is very worthy of a viewing.
Please tell Mr. Lisbon that I am still proudly serving in the Supercult Navy and that The Young Idea is an amazing piece of work.
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cupcake
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07/20/08 08:10 pm
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all i'm gonna say is: a clockwork orange is a really good movie, i don't think anyone can deny that.
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Diablo
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07/21/08 10:34 am
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Kubrick's films have been something of a fascination of mine. I've only seen four of them so far (Strangelove, 2001, Clockwork and Eyes Wide Shut), though I'm hoping to get around to see the rest at some point. When I watched those four for the first time, they have always left me thinking quite strongly about various aspects of the film, once the movie ends - and I anticipate I'll get the same response from the others. I always like films that challenge my mind and preconceptions.
For Strangelove, it was the incredibly dark humour, themes of using sexual innuendo as metaphors for war and aggression, and the satirisation of cold-war fears. For 2001, it was the innovative visual filming techniques introduced for its time. For Clockwork, it was the social commentary throughout, and the consequences of the punishments dealt to the main character (plus I liked Wendy Carlos' soundtrack as well - the Moog synth renditions of various classical pieces give a sense of melancholy and unsettlement). I also found EWS pretty provocative in highlighting the very dark aspects of human sexuality.
All in all, a common observation apparent and much appreciated throughout all the films is the amount of meticulous detail to every scene, act, character and so on, and his shooting, directing and editing methods used. That said, I have had to argue with friends in the past who think Kubrick is overrated - to some extent I think he's not the be-all, end-all of movie directors, so I don't always praise him endlessly.
Seeing Clockwork, even just once, would be time well worth spent. I'll give you my word for it. Which other Kubrick films have you seen?
With regards to your bed: Hmm... is someone trying to tell you something? ;)
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Harlow
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07/22/08 08:35 pm
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i want to be in that bed. did ya get ma email WANT SOME STICKERSSSSSSS?!?!?!
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Erica
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07/23/08 10:41 pm
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clockwork orange the movie, is way better than the book... and um, the shining, probably better than the book, very good... and 2001, I own it, my dad bought it for me, but I've never watched it straight through. And I must be the only person on earth who likes eyes wide shut...
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Josepha
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07/28/08 04:58 pm
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I don't get that "omg you have to read that/see that or you are incomplete" stuff... They are actually selling books with books-you-have-to-read-content... waste of time you could use for reading something and make up your own mind... but other topic... I love Barry Lyndon cause every still looks like a great painting...
and I like eyes wide shut cause it is a great adaption of the book by arthur schnitzler...
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interzone
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08/03/08 01:14 pm
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Honestly...I really like Kubrik, and absolutely love Full-Metal Jacket...but not such a big fan of Clockwork Orange. I admire his vision, and the fact that he isn't against crossing any lines...but anymore it seems that the whole Clockwork Orange thing is something people latch on to simply because it is still considered to be so edgy and taboo. Don't get me wrong...it is entertaining. But I honestly cannot remember the last time I was able to make it through the whole thing without falling asleep... ;)
And as for Alkaline Trio...this was the first time I've gotten to see them. I would have love to have seen them when they played all of Goddamnit. Such a great album!!
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Annaliese
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08/03/08 03:31 pm
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stanley kubick is one of the greatest filmmakers EVER. his attention to every single detail from the shape of a casted actresses breasts to the patterns on the carpet to the sweeping, gorgeous cinematography to the way he drives his actors to near madness are what make him great. he is well rounded, just bizarre enough to be cult... the Lolita film that kubrick did is very true to the book.
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interzone
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08/05/08 02:19 pm
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How did I not know he did Lolita??? It's been far too long. I really must check this out again!
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Vesper
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08/09/08 08:50 pm
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I'm not going to lie: I had trouble reading and watching A Clockwork Orange. Damn made up language.
And picture 74 is my absolute favorite. Haha. My face is probably gong to get stuck like that soon.
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